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2008-12-03 07:47:48

David Bianco - Fool or Prophet?




Could the S&P 500 actually trade 53% higher next year?

David Bianco, a 33 year-old analyst at UBS AG, thinks so.

Bianco said on Wednesday that the S&P 500 "may" rally to 1,300 by the end of 2009 - the S&P 500 is currently trading at 848.81.

Bianco asserts that global stocks will "withstand a full-blown recession" and "surge" in 2009. This flies in the face of the popular opinion that global equity markets will continue to buckle under the strain of the recession (and possible depression). UBS believes that 2009 will bring "signs of a dawn of confidence" with the "first faint light appearing earlier than most investors expect." Cheap valuations and intervention efforts by many major governments will conspire to pull the equity markets higher, according to Bianco.

UBS also believes that the FTSE 100 may rise 41% in 2009, and that the FTSEurofirst 300 Index may rise as much as 25%.

It should be noted that UBS predicted that the S&P 500 would increase 16% in 2008 - as you are well aware, the index is on track to post one of its worst years ever.

This is a particularly ridiculous prediction to me for a number of reasons:

1. Is this a prediction that is strictly based on a "gut feel"? Or is there any data to back up this up?

2. How can you make this prediction after whiffing so badly on your 2008 prediction for the S&P 500? You are setting yourself up to look pretty ridiculous if the 2009 prediction doesn't come to fruition..

3. There is no historical precedent for the markets rebounding sharply after turning in such a poor year. There will definitely be bear market rallies along the way - but a 53% rally just one year after the markets turned in one of their worst years in history? You're asking quite a bit.

4. This prediction requires quite a few things to happen in order to come true. Hedge fund redemption requests need to slow down and stabilize. Investor confidence needs to rise, and people need to get excited about committing their cash to the stock market once again. Companies need to start providing optimistic forward earnings guidance. People need to start feeling more confident about the economy, their jobs and home values. And most of all, the credit crisis needs to stabilize. This all needs to happen before the markets turn in a strong year. Doesn't 2009 seem a bit too soon for all of this to happen?

What do you think? Will Bianco end up being right? Or will the UBS AG analyst end up as a laughing-stock in a year?

Source: Bloomberg.com - Stocks to Rise in '09, UBS Says; S&P 500 May Gain 53%


Filed under: General Market News



9 COMMENTS - What Say You?

Comment by Senta on December 07, 2008 @ 8:24 pm

He may be right. Look how far we have come in year.
Unless we are in a depression - this market resembles the 73 - 74 bear). In that case the S&P 500 rose 53% from the monthly low of Oct-74 to the next high of June-75.

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Comment by Senta on December 08, 2008 @ 2:40 am

Prophet

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Comment by CapitalGuy on January 24, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

Wonder if he has been fired yet. S&P is headed a lot lower, with a trough of around 500. The reason is S&P earnings estimate is around $42 and the analyst community tend to be an optimistic bunch (they had forecast $72 for 2008 in early 2008 and we finished 2008 around $48 I think). So even if we end up with $40 as 2009 earnings, a multiple of 12.5, which is lower than the long term average of 15, results in S&P of around 500. In deep recessions such as this, the multiple falls below the long term average (could fall to anywhere from 6x to 14x). So even an optimist would forecast a low fo around 600 on S&P. The trough has a range estimate of 300 to 600. S&P looks very expensive currently.

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Comment by Michael K. on May 29, 2009 @ 3:51 pm

This guy has been so many times it's not funny. I'm surprised UBS hasn't fired him yet.

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Comment by Global Wealth King UBS on June 01, 2009 @ 8:15 am

Good riddens! Not only is he out of UBS, Merill Lynch took him.

I'm glad I didn't move over to Merrill Lynch last month to get stuck with him again. Ha!

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Comment by Yishai Kagan on December 27, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

I suppose he was mostly right, I am also sure that his English is better than that of Global Wealth King UBS. Good luck at Merrill Lynch!

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Comment by Ashish on February 01, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

Wish I listened to him. Prophet

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Comment by Hindsight 2011 on September 27, 2011 @ 3:32 pm

Capitalguy is clearly a moron...

Bianco said maybe 13 and we got 11 from 8.

capitalguy I hope you are not in the industry.

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Comment by hindsightnotneeded on November 29, 2011 @ 4:51 pm

his timing was wrong. his math is strong.

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